Scheana Shay is opening up about where she stands with Tom Sandoval.

During an episode of her Scheananigans podcast, the Vanderpump Rules star spoke to her guest, Kelly Osbourne, about her feelings toward Tom after the “Scandoval” situation.

In case you missed it, Tom had an affair with fellow star of the show Raquel Leviss, while he was in a 9-year relationship with Scheana‘s best friend, Ariana Madix.

Keep reading to find out what she shared…

It’s difficult for Scheana to see her former close friend in a totally different light. “I never thought he was a bad guy,” she said on the podcast. “He was one of my best friends for almost 15 years. He was the only person who had my back on this show, who fought for me whenever something was unfair and he was the person there in my corner.”

She continued, “I have personally really struggled with all this because I’m like, ‘Yes, you did a really bad thing. But you weren’t a bad friend to me. But then what you have done has affected me.’ So it’s just changed the entire dynamic of our group.”

Scheana recently shared her wild theory about Raquel‘s appearance on Bethenny Frankel‘s podcast.